16 x 20 Phoenix Heat Press

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For Sale:

16 x 20 Phoenix Heat Press - Color Red - $650

Made by Stahls - sold by Imprintables Warehouse. Great machine. Similar 16 x 20 machines of this size and calliber (Don't be fooled by the el cheapo junk they sell on ebay) sell for $1000-1200. Less than 2 years old. Clean machine in great working shape. Includes a teflon sheet as well.

Details from the Imprintables Website...

Phoenix™ Heat Presses

The Latest In Heat Press Technologies ~ Engineer to be Lighter, Stronger and Easier to Use.

Phoenix™ Heat Presses bring uniqueness to the marketplace by featuring a digital time and temperature readout and a framework crafted from corrosion-resistant anodized aluminum. The result: a more accurate, lighter-weight and stronger heat press! In fact, the aluminum framework is approximately 30% lighter than steel yet gives a strength-to-weight ratio that is second to none. Because of this lightweight characteristic of aluminum, Phoenix™ Heat Presses are the ideal choice for mobile business operations.

Features:

- Digital Time & Temperature Readout
- Oil Impregnated Bushings
- Durable Shoulder Bolt Pivot Points
- Smooth Shock Openings
- Wide 65º Opening for Easy Layouts
- Corrosion Resistant Anodized Aluminum Framework
- Over-the-Center Pressure Adjustment
- Upper Floatational Heat Platen
- Non-Stick Heat Platen
- Even Heat Across the Platen
- UL, CE, ULC Approved
- Lifetime Warranty on the Heating Element

Pickup preferred - We are in Frederick, Maryland.

[signman]

John, no way I could come down and pick it up...gas for my jeep would just bankrupt me. But if there was anyway you could pack it up and get it to UPS or on a truck, I'd be very interested. Do you have a link to a website showing the machine (or factory picture of one, I mean?) I do a lot of tablecovers with 40" images heatsealed on my 14 x 16 and it just takes for ever, plus doing it in sections does increase the risk of screwups. I'd much rather get this one and then sell my backup smaller one (only 2 years old, not used for the last year) if someone wanted a shirt size press.
Let's talk!
Roland

[Mr. Sew & Sew]

Here's a solution for you guys.

I am located in Central NJ which is close to the midpoint between you two. You can both come to my house to make the exchange. I will buy you guys lunch or dinner just for the privilage of meeting you and picking your brains about embroidery.

Tom

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Roland

I will get a picture posted tonite. Shipping is probably doable but am guessing it would run 50-75 bucks at least due to the weight. When it was shipped to us, it was bolted to a piece of plywood and then loaded in a cardboard box.

uship.com is another option. I used it to get a baby pac man video game from SC to Maryland. Its where folks with extra room on their trucks will pick up and deliver items for you. You sign up for an account and let folks bid to ship it. Worked great and was less than the big carriers.

Tom, no offense but I will be seeing too much of NJ... just got back from ISS yesterday in Atlantic City and head back to AC on Wednesday for the Atlantic 10 Mens Basketball Tourney to root on the Dayton Flyers. Want to meet me in AC Roland?

[Mr. Sew & Sew]

John - I wish I knew you were there. Would have loved to meet you.

I spent all day Saturday at ISS. The Melco booth was hopping. John D. is a great guy to talk to. I showed him a design I was having trouble with on a t-shirt and he gave me some pointers to try. I have the advantage of living 75 minutes from AC and also 35 minutes from Melco's NJ office. Plus I'm 20 minutes from SanMar's NJ distribution center so I can run over and pick up orders same day if needed.

But once you get past all of that, it's still NJ.

[Ballyhoo]

Better check freight costs more carefully. that thing is big and heavy. I had to send mine back to the factory a while ago (Arlington VA to somewhere outside of Pittsburgh) and I recall the freight being about $200 (I think that was just one way but might have been round trip). Gas cost may look a little better!

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Originally posted by Ballyhoo:
Better check freight costs more carefully. that thing is big and heavy. I had to send mine back to the factory a while ago (Arlington VA to somewhere outside of Pittsburgh) and I recall the freight being about $200 (I think that was just one way but might have been round trip). Gas cost may look a little better!

This is why I suggested uship - I think I paid about $250 to have that full size arcade game shipped from SC to Maryland.

It may take a little longer but it's certainly less expensive.

[signman]

thanks for the offer Tom, but just the gas one way to get that far alone would be more than freight!
Even our cherokee only gets 18-20 on the highway.
John, if you can estimate the size of a 'box' or small skid and try to weigh it (or give me the factory info and I'll get a weight from them) I can check the UPS charge-I have a commercial account and can send a shipping tag down if we can put this together. Never heard of the uship.com company.
But I did get a skid of big tires and rims for my jeeps from a friend in Maryland-for 9 tires on rims (and 4 of them are 80# apiece) it was around $150.00 on a regular frieght truck. frieght charge might be the killer on this...
so if you can get me a link to get specs on it I'll see what I can figure out from my end.
Roland

[Steve]

UPS will take anything under 150 pounds per box. There is a "heavy package fee" though. (no limit on number of boxes.) Anything over 151 pounds has to be shipped freight which UPS does as well.

[signman]

I found images of the heatpress and some others...and it looks like it isn't what I need. I already have a 16 x 16, and the 16 x 20 is vertical, not horizontal. We do a lot of tablecovers with 8' x 40" images, and moving into banners also...so I need a 'wide' platen instead of a 'tall' platen. Darn! It looks like a good deal!
Never had a shirt image that needed a larger platen...just the table covers and banners.
No way to turn the platens and heating heads around...I looked.
Roland

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I've never seen Wide as opposed to Tall...

[signman]

I've heard of them and I think I've seen an old one somewhere...but that's what I need. Having 20" is a waste of heat that would never be used. If my antique old 'yeller' (weighs well over 100#) wasn't almost a 'square' platen I could have a welding shop remount the swivel post but being 16 x 15.5, not much gain. I will probably call Geo Knight in the future if my new banner venture takes off along with increase in table covers. I think adding the banner line could increase sales enough to make it worth getting one built that way if I can't find it.
Then I could do the whole image in 2 segments instead of having to press and move 3-4 times.

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Disagree with you on the waste... if nothing more - we use our heat presses all the time to make our end product look better before giving it to the customer. The more you can fit under the press, the quicker that job goes.

Also comes in handy doing back of athletic jerseys with NAME up top, NUMBER in the middle and Sponsor below. In a smaller machine, it would mean multiple presses...

[signman]

Except for basket ball and soccer, we've never done any other teams yet...another 'inside' guy has the local schools all tied up. On my big yeller machine I've done 14 x 15 images, numbers and names many a time. For team sponsors (the few we've done) it's always been youth and small adult sizes so I've been able to fit it all on one piece of heatseal vinyl.
Or for larger runs I screenprint the sponsor and add the rest with vinyl.
For my purpose on the banners and table covers-the image areas would never go over 14-15" tall-tablecovers are all maximum 10" x 46" or they dont look good-so all the excess 'height' on the platen means heating up unneeded area. A 20" WIDE by 14 or 16 high would be perfect for a two pass press. I'll eventually find one somewhere...

Roladn