need welder/train engineer hat

[signman]

Couple of customers responsible for some large sign orders happened to say they are both looking for a heavyweight 'denim' hat. No adjustable back-comes in 'sizes'. First glance it looks like a blue striped 'engineer' hat, when he took it off-it has a higher crown than any hat I have. Unstructured, so it kind of 'flops' on the back of the head like a french beret on backwards. In reality it is a 'welders' ballcap-the excess 'head' material can be pulled down around the back of the skull, pulling the cap tight so welding sparks roll off. One was wearing his when he came in, my other customer saw it and wanted it. They both have natural 'solar panels' so this type of hat would be great. He had it, his last one-because he used to give them away when he sold welding supplies-and said the mfg. is long out of business. Definitly 'heavyweight' but soft like stonewashed.
Train caps I used to buy for my kids are similar but lighterweight, at least the 'retail' version is. Anyone know what I"m talking about and where to find some? It does have a 'medium' length bill, no top button or vent holes. Even if I have to pay retail-one of them just picked up almost $5000 worth of embroidery, screenprinting and signs...so I'd get him some as a gift.
Roland

[Juli in Kona]

Try:

http://www.antonline.com/p_00140-GP_339292.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Welders-Welding-...ayphotohosting

http://workingperson.com/products/66...d_Cap_A75.html

I didn't have any trouble finding these and there are tons more places.. I did a Google search on Welding Cap

Juli in Kona

[signman]

Thanks Juli...I had done a Yahoo search and 99% of it was ebay sales or through workclothing suppliers...finally tracked down Kromer direct and had a sales person from there email me immediately! Must be a slow day at the factory. I'm waiting back to get bulk pricing and how to measure for size...and to make sure it's a real 'welder's' cap. Those are thicker and burn proof. Well worn and washed-they look really comfortable for those of us with the oversized craniums...LOL.
Pretty sure when I get a couple for my two customers that I can turn it into orders for multiple dozens with one company, maybe two!
I have the feeling if the label is still in his original, it might be a Kromer...they've been around that long.
As for ebay sales, etc.-never know if you can get more or in quantity-so I bypass that type of supplier. But thanks for the lookup-you got different links than I did!
If you ever get over to this side of the mainland...we'll gladly take you for a real offroad jeep ride in New England...show you what you are missing over there in the sun and the sand!

Roland