Saving design as jpg file

[Marcelle]

I am having trouble getting a jpg file to look good when a design is saved with DS9 Pro Plus. The image is too small and very poor quality. I can increase the design size to get a larger image but have not been able to get a good image with anything I have tried.

I can save the same file using DS7 Pro Plus and get a very good image. I would rather not have to go back to DS7 every time I want a good image though.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong in DS9 that the images are so bad?

[Juli in Kona]

It is best to bring the graphics into DS at the final size you need. I do this with Paint Shop Pro. DS will bring in raster files at 254 pixels/inch. So, I set the pixels to 254 and then the size I want and save it. When brought into DS it is exactly the size I want it. The secret is to set the number of Pixels per inch to 254. If you don't do that it won't come in at the proper size.

I remember seeing, a long time ago, that it is not a good idea to resize an image in DS. Because the number of pixels/inch stays the same and therefore the quality goes way down. Just doesn't work well at all.

Juli in Kona

[signman]

jpg isn't a real file format-it is a COMPRESSION file-everytime (including the first time) you save that file as jpg-it has thrown away detail. And every time after that you open and view, and close again, it has thrown away more detail. PDF is a better file for transmitting images around, but I don't think you can bring pdf into DS. EPS would be the best one-all detail is saved but again, I can't keep track of what DS opens. I do all my artwork in Mac freehand, save on a thumb drive as eps, pdf, jpg, ai, everything-and just go in from DS until it 'sees' one but I can't see the file extension in DS so I don't know which one is really working! But I also save on the mac in the full size I want in DS and that's how it opens it up.

[levelbest]

Roland - love ya bud - but you are a little off here. The only time you loose information is when you actually save a file to a jpg.

Opening and closing the file doesn't change it's properties. Opening it, compressing it, and saving it out again does...

JPG is a compressed file format. Depending on the compression, it throws away data that it doesn't think you need in order to make the file size smaller but still be representative of the original. The more a file is compressed, the smaller it gets and the more detail that gets lost.

[Body Cover]

I hate to correct you Roland,
but it only compresses each time you resave it.
once the first time and each time it gets recompressed as a jpg. but not each time it is opened. and viewed. otherwise every website
that has JPG files (almost all) would have the files
so degraded that they no longer would be viewable.
PDF and EPS are vector files meaning they are mathematical coordinates with instructions for each piece, which is why they can be edited and altered and the size changed with no loss of detail. .JPGs and BMP and TIFFs are like photos
and can lose most of there detail when enlarged. like they do on a photocopier.

Hope that enlightens people.
Ron

[signman]

I was going by the computer gurus in the graphic world (signshops I work with, etc.) and we all have the habit of automatically hitting 'save' instead of just 'close window' because we constantly change and correct artwork. Hence the warning that doing it to a jpg file loses detail. Only time any of us use a jpg is to send a file out for a proof version-never for sending files back and forth for actual print jobs (or whatever else we do to it). And eps files...if you don't have the same program the original eps was made in...it doesn't always work on the other end! I find this out all the time with some Illustrator version eps files trying to open with Freehand and vice versa. For me-original files always work the best. Hate it when people send me their logos in a 'web image' jpg (or even gif!) and expect me to make a 4' enlargement with zero problems!

[Ballyhoo]

I am not using DS9 yet, so I can't answer the question... but it seems to me that the question was regarding SAVING the file as a jpg (Save As), not retrieving it.

[Marcelle]

The jpg format I am talking about is after digitizing. Saving the digitized design to a jpg file so that the actual stitches show (could be called a proof I suppose). In DS7 the jpg files are very good and look almost like a scanned stitchout. Mine do not look good like that in DS9.

[Rod or Sharon]

Might be a dumb question, but do you have the stitchout image in 3D before printing or saving it to a jpeg? If not then the saved file and/or print-out will have a very light diffused look to it..?

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[Marcelle]

I do have it in 3D. Would someone please try saving the same design in V7 and V9 and let me know if yours are the same. I would then know if it is just my computer.

Has anyone already tried comparing jpg files in both versions?

Thanks.

[Laurie]

don't you have to EXPORT it as a jpeg if you are working within Design Shop?? This only makes sense to me as the 'natural' saving you would do would be as a embroidery file, if you want an imagae, you would have to export the jepg.

I may be totally off, as I am new to the software. In Corel everything SAVES as a CDR, if you need another file; ie eps, jpg... you have to export.

Let me know if I am nuts or not!

Laurie

[signman]

YOu're nuts...LOL...I just went to DS 9 and checked...
actually, in Design Shop, you have to SAVE AS to get to jpg, eps, tiff formats (way down the bottom of the pulldown menu that comes up).
In EXPORT mode, you can only 'export' as a SEW file-there's a short list of other brands (tajima, whatever) of file you may want to send to another machine.
It's backwards...but hey, the software programmers don't know what they are doing for real...LOL...

[Laurie]

LOL!! Well, now that I have confirmation! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Its nice to know what I need to do if I need to save my design in another format, I'm glad teh question got brought up!

Laurie

[Marcelle]

Thanks for all the discussion but I still need someone to tell me if there is a difference in the size and quality of the jpg if you do the following:

Open DS9, pick any design and use 'save as' to save it as a jpg.

Then open DS7, pick the exact same design and use 'save as' to save it as a different jpg file name.

What differences to you see (if any) in the two jpg files.

It would really help me to know if I am the only one that has a lot of difference in the quality and size of the jpg files.

[Marcelle]

To all:

I now have a resolution (with the help of a phone call to Juli in Kona) to the problem with my jpg files being poor quality. It must have had something to do with the last DSv9 update downloaded. I changed the dpi from 254 to a different number and then changed it back to 254 to stay. I now have as good a quality jpg files with V9 as I do with V7. What was very strange and I am not sure what was really going on but it was affecting both computers that I use. Doesn't matter now though because it is working finally.

Many thanks to Juli.