Complex fill

[Oregonian1a]

I designed a piece of embroidery using complex fill pattern #1 in Design Shop Pro. When the machine began to stitch the object the head began making really large movements from side to side, almost like it was trying to do a very long satin stitch. Before the large move it would sometimes execute a trim cycle which only sometimes trimmed the thread. During this, when I pressed the red pause button, sometimes the machine did not stop.

Then when I would stop the machine and try to reload the design, I got the message that I could not reload the design. Rebooting the Amaya allowed me to load a design again.

I changed all the complex fill objects to fill pattern #4 and the problem went away. What am I not understanding about fill pattern #1?

Dennis

[Steve]

you can send the design to me and I can take a look
steve20832 **at** hotmail.com

[Linda]

That happened to me once and it was the direction of the fill stitch that was causing the problem. Once I changed that it helped.

[Digital Stitchz / LaserWorkz]

If you look at fill 1, it looks like a satin stitch. Might be why you got what you got. It is a satin stitch if you are doing a large fill - it won't work.
Barbara Ott

[Rod or Sharon]

Hummmmm...if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck......yup....#1 is a satin stitch.

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[Greenwing]

Just for your information pattern 11 is also a satin so it is useless also.

I have NO IDEA why they woud have two useless fills out of the few they give.

Does anyone know Why out of all the software out there Design Shop is the only one that comes with NO pattern fills???? 16 usable textures no fills
and really no way to create them..

I have several other programs that are able to do this with out a problem.

The more I learn about DS the more I feel it is only an editing tool. as it constantly locks up and is not at all user friendly.

[Rod or Sharon]

Jerome,

Guess I would have to disagree on a couple of counts ......first DS is probably one of the most user friendly digitizing programs I know of. But, none of the programs out there are easy if you don't know how to use them....

The #11 fill is the same as #1 fill, #12 fill is the same as #2 fill, #13 fill is the same as #3 fill and so on......you really only have 10 different types of "fill". Don't ask me why they did this...that is just the way it is....you can change the "partition sequence" and change the look of the fills also. For those that like to experiment try this.....select a #8 or #18 fill, set the stitch angle to 13 degrees, set the stitch length to 73 pts and create a fill....it makes a pretty good looking corduroy fill that can be used in a lot of designs.....

Pattern fills are different altogether. Depending on what level of DS that you have, there are a great many pattern fills that can be utilized. By selecting a pattern fill( found in the Custom Shapes tools ) and then changing the stitch direction and or stitch length, an unlimited assortment of patterns can be created in DS and be saved as "Custom Fills".

You can also select a fill element in the project tree, then click on "Insert Outline" then select the "Custom Shapes", split & Tile any one of dozens of shapes and have them sew right into the fill creating all kinds of special effects.....

What level of DS are you currently operating with? Design Shop Pro+ is the highest level at present and is a very user frindly but powerful program. Granted, other folks have learned to use other programs and after the learning curve is over, either like them or hate them too....

Depending on what you are specifically trying to do, it will also depend on what level of DS you have and how many bells and whistles you have available to you...so DS can do this without a problem too.........

DS Lite allows adding names but is very limited to any indepth editing. Design Shop gives you more editing and bordering capability. DS Pro starts giving you real digitizing ability and DS Pro+ has it all, but is more $$$$$....

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[Greenwing]

Rod
Thanks for your responce.


Now I dont want to get in to any argument here

I was just giving my views on the software.

I have been digitizing for about 9 years and using various software.

I purchased DS for the machine interaction and functionality. ( I have Pro ( I have used Pro+))

But this software is very bug prone and when you mention it to Melco it is Ignored or your told you need to Purchase an INDEPENDENT computer to run the software. ( they even suggest to have a seprate computer for the AMAYA OS.)

This is unheard of in the (computer) industry.

They need to work on the compatablity first and formost.

[Steve]

Jerome,
I do not run an independent computer and everything runs fine. I have about 200gb of "stuff" on it. I use the same computer for personal stuff as well as the business.
We had our first snow of the year yesterday, now it needs to go away

[David - Keband A'asia]

Jerome,
Having used both DS & other digitizing software over the past 9 yrs, I would have to say that DS is one of the best available.

DS has some features which are easier to use and are better whilst other software also has some advantages.

We have many customers running DS and have never had a complaint about the standard fills or custom fills.

The independant computer is advised for the AMAYA machine as this computer is the interface for the machine, and should be treated as such.

Above spec computers should be able to run the embroidery applications as well as other programs, however every now and then there can be clashes and this can happen between other applications also

[Rod or Sharon]

Jerome,

I would not consider this discussion to be arguing.

There must be a reason that your software is or appears to be "bug prone".

As "techs", we are instructed to advise the customer to always install DS and AOS as the "last" programs to be loaded on any computer. This is because other big powerful cad programs such as Corel Draw and/or Adobe Illustrator will alter the registry if it finds simular files by replacing them with their own. That is a much simplfied explanation, but having these large cad programs loaded on top of DS/AOS has been known to be a problem.

Another thing...if you haven't already done this, "Right" click on the 3D icon and de-activate "Hardware Acceleration" by unchecking it. This feature will definitly affect DS/AOS functions. They just don't like each other. Hardware Acceleration, I am told, only needs to be on if you are going to play some of the high end X games, etc....there are folks out there that understand this process much better than I..I don't play any computer games....

So there are a couple of problem areas, with work arounds for them.....

The reason that Melco advises dedicated computers, in my opinion, is simply because it would eliminate a whole host of known varibles and simplify the process of elimination when trying to trouble shoot any given problem....

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[Oregonian1a]

Thanks for the helpful information. I suspected it was trying to do a satin stitch, as I saw similar behavior when I tried to do an absurdly wide column.

The way I look at stuff like this relates to an old medical joke: The man goes to the doctor and says, "It hurts when I do this!" The doctor replies, "Then don't do that."

Now, about the duck comment... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dennis