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    Hello all! I am not satisfied with the tension of my machine. Lettering has been the better than other designs. Stock designs or those that I've had digitized have always sewn out too tight. I'd appreciate your help...it's paralyzing me into not wanting to work for hire. If I'm not proud of my work (it's ok, just not great), I can't see myself able to charge for it.

    I've been using stock designs from different vendors. Output from all are stiff and pucker to various degrees. I posted recently about changing the bottom limit of the acti-feed and/or changing the density of fills in the design...which is where I'm headed next.

    But first, I thought I should take a design that came with DS from the design directory, sew it out unmodified and work from there. Sorry, I'm very methodical and this is how I learn/understand. I'm not one to shoot from the hip or take stabs in the dark.

    So...here's what I did. I chose the Poppy design, hooped a woven with one layer of cutaway (2.2, I think). Tight as a drum. Actifeed was set at 3 with the design...knowing the likely outcome, I left it. I stopped stitching before it was 1/2 thru because the puckering was pretty bad already. Again, I just wanted to see if the designs that came with the machine would be any better than other stock designs. Not.

    Next, same design, I set actifeed to auto with a bottom limit of 4 and used a heavier backing (3.1). Close, but no cigar. Puckering still unacceptable.

    I have quit for the evening...past my bedtime...but my next step will be to change the density for the fills in the design...from 4 to 4.something. I'm not sure how to blanket change the fill density of a design. I "selected all" in DS and right clicked to open properties. Only one of the types of fill in the design was changed in that modification. Would I change each style fill in a design individually or is there a way to change all at one time, maybe as a % change? Is there one type of fill that is typically more of a problem than another?

    Would anyone like to look at that design and tell me what you'd do and why? I can't seem to get this puckering thing resolved.

    Talk about training...is there a level of training somewhere between "brand new" and "technician training"?

    Thanks in advance for your help. Oh yea, this is a 2007 Amaya XT...software, the Vista compatible version.

    Anita

  • #2
    Hi Anita,
    Just looking at the design, I think that part of the problem is that there is insufficient underlay in most of the larger fills and columns in the design. I would turn on the standard underlay for the fills and put a zig zag underlay on all of the larger columns. (also I saw that the first column in the design and element 148 are E-stitch. I would change them to a satin)Asfor the density, I don't think that changing that is going to make the difference.
    Hope this helps.
    Debbie

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    • #3
      Thanks so much for looking at it and offering input. I looked at the underlay, but made no judgment/conclusions...I have just too little experience/knowledge to go on.

      I spoke with Herb this morning and he had the same input re: density. He was a wealth of info...answered alot of questions.

      I'm in the office, but will work with the suggestions when I get home.

      thanks again...I know I'm not the only one that feels this way...I so appreciate the time people take to help each other on this forum.
      Anita

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      • #4
        I've played a little trying to get unpuckered designs on lightweight polos and teeshirts...the combination that Fred sent me worked great!
        Against the shirt is EB 151 mesh, then EB308 tearaway. We deliberately used a design that worked great on sweatshirts and hats but puckered so bad we couldn't do polos...and it worked! I did it without changing density settings from fleece...and it was amazing. The design was for Century 21 real estate- the 'roof' design with Century 21 around it.
        Now for other problems with puckering-whatever the density is that puckers, I go in and change it 1/2- to test- so if the main fill area is 4, I go to 4.5. IF 5, up to 5.5, etc.
        Lettering-I don't add any extra underlayment unless it's on a ridged fabric, like thick pique.
        I also set lettering up to 5.5 or even 6...you just need to experiment on scrap fabric.
        I had never thought the lightweight 'mesh' backing would work, being so 'light' I couldn't see how it would help...well, I was wrong!
        So give it a shot...the customer loved it!

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        • #5
          What was the combination fred sent you?
          John Yaglenski
          Amayausers.com - Webmaster
          Levelbest Embroidery - Owner
          Hilton Head Island, SC
          http://www.levelbestembroidery.com

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          • #6
            No particular combination. Our discussion confirmed some of my understanding and clarified some misconceptions...some defaults to check and basics to return to. But in the end I was able to finally determine that the designs are more likely than not to be the problem...and I learned alot in the process.

            I was able to eliminate the machine as the problem by sewing out a known "non-puckering" design Herb sent. It was designed for knits...which sewed out perfectly. That was huge to me, to be able to narrow this down. I don't do well with too many variants.

            If I'm going to use stock designs, which is something I want to be able to do, I'll have to understand more about digitizing in order to be able to modify them. Revealing my ignorance here...but I'm surprised there isn't better conversion software out there.

            Signman...yes, Fred has been very helpful. I have several of his backings, including a mesh or two...but couldn't find the two you're referring to, by those numbers anyways. I have some shirts to do and will get the op to try them out soon.

            Appreciate everyones help...
            anita

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            • #7
              If your question was directed at me, Tom...I gave the combination in my answer...
              Against the shirt is EB 151 mesh, then EB308 tearaway.
              Keep in mind Fred is working for a NEW company now and this is the products he recommends-so the item numbers may not be familiar.
              I couldn't believe the difference it made on plain old cheesy teeshirt material!

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              • #8
                Where do we get the EB151 mesh, etc.? Can you send me a link for ordering? thanks!
                Blessings~cindy

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                • #9
                  Fred gave me this contact for buying the mesh, etc. over here on the east coats.
                  Jeffrey Kaufman
                  S.M.Cristall Company, Inc.
                  1865 Kenmore Avenue
                  Buffalo, NY 14217
                  1-800-800-9983

                  to contact Fred directly to find other suppliers,
                  [email protected]

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