Hat frame problem.

[outlaw]

Ok let me see if I can make this sence. While running hats the machine made a load thump sound the frame jumped and we got a X motor tracking error. Twice the rounded over side of the frame jumped up on to the bobbin cover and broke the needle.

[Wishes]

It sounds like you may not have the hat frame locked onto the hat driver. Another possibility could be that your design is too large or wasn't centered when you stared sewing.

[Rod or Sharon]

Outlaw,

You said "Twice the rounded over side of the frame jumped up on to the bobbin cover and broke the needle."

I am still trying to figure out how any part of the "frame" can jump up and get any where near the the "bobbin cover." Also, the whole 270 style frame is round and is completely captured by the cap driver, unless we are talking about the CCF/WAD old style frames.

????

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[outlaw]

Yes it is the CCF/WAD frame. I was trying to add a pic but I guess we can't do that on this forum.

[Rod or Sharon]

Wishes gave you a couple of good reasons to ponder. If the design is too large and/or the design is not centered in the digitizing program prior to being loaded into AOS and if it is possibly being sewn too high in the sewing field, the side or front of the frame may contact the sewing arm and be knocked loose off of the cap driver. Is the hoop detection enabled?

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[outlaw]

This is happening with a design we have sew out many times before and yes hoop detection is on. We set up another machine with the same design and it worked fine.

[Rod or Sharon]

You can send pics to my regular email at [email protected]

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[outlaw]

Rod
Pic is on the way.

[outlaw]

OH and this is a big red machine.

[Rod or Sharon]

Sharon responded to your pic email.

On the Big Reds when using the CCF/WAD cap frame, the "wings"need to be removed. The wings will impact the sides of the CCF/WAD frame on some designs and create problems.

The wings were primarily used with the 270 degree style of frame. The raised bump on the needleplate will sometimes catch on the cap seams without the wings present, hence, that is the reason the wings were used and it helped smooth out the cap too.

There are many operators out there now( myself included ) that use just the standard needleplate and use the presserfoot all the way down and up 1 or 2 clicks just as you would on sewing flats. Seems to work just fine.

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[outlaw]

Rod and Sharon
Thank you that did the trick. We are sewing hats now and I took the wings off of the other 2 trames as well.
Jerry