Fusible no show mesh / wet n stick backings

[ckramer]

We are checking into these different backings to hopefully aid in providing great looking embroidery on the new dri-tech, under armour,... fabric types without the garments puckering. (They are soooooo stretchy) Sounds like a lot of extra steps to adhere these and to remove. Is the product result worth it? Is it easier to use than I think? And does one need to remove it immediately after sewing to get it off easily, or can it sit for hours or a day and still come off quickly? ANY INPUT ON THESE STABALIZERS IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

[Terri H]

Fusible no show mesh - have been very happy with it. I use it on t-shirts and denim for certain designs. Have never used the dri-tech/under armour products... The fusible is easily removed even after several hours. I can't remember if I've removed it after days but probably have. For removal, just gently separate the mesh from the fabric.

[flebow]

I invented Wet N Stick but it is definitely not recommended
Pls see

http://www.lebowconsulting.com/performance-wear.pdf

If you are wary of your hooping use the low melt fusible mesh
If you can hoop it easily w/o slippage use the reg mesh

And if you want samples pls email me direct and off list

Fred

[ckramer]

Thank you Fred. Not often does one receive a reply from an inventor! I did take a peek at your consulting business. Interesting! Thanks for the advice. Seems everyone has a different opinion so sometimes it's difficult to know which one to follow. I've done my share of trial and error, just prefer to reduce the "error" portion!

[Mama Kass]

I do quite a bit of large area embroidery on poly peau de soie satin (quite stretchy) and have been hooping Fred's fusible web so I don't have to worry about stretching the fabric when using my jacket back hoop. As he recommends for high stitch counts, I use it with another layer of non-fusible mesh hooped cross-wise with the fusible, sometimes adding a floater of tear-away for better definition or for higher stitch counts.
Its the best solution I have found, but there is a fine line between over- and under-pressing to achieve a good bond that holds as needed but pulls away easily. When I have over-fused it, it was harder to pull away and left a crispy, scratchy residue. Time elapsed after fusing doesn't seem to be a factor because it doesn't work in the same way as the spray stuff.
My work is large scale and one-off type stuff. I would think the careful pressing needed might be a bit fussy for an operation that needs speed, but it's a quality product and a sample is free and worth a try if works with your operation.

[flebow]

You are doing what I believe to be carrect by addinmg a layer of tearaway
It gives you better definition
Re the difficulty of the fusible mesh removal - Preheat the edges first and then peel back and trim
I also agree w using 2 l;ayes of mesh cross patterned for larger stitch counts 12-15,000 or more
We specifically used a low melt -280F on ours so as not to scorch nor shrink your fabric.

mediumsetting for 10 - 12 seconds
As alwayds - if anyone wants samples pls e-mail me off list

Fred

[Posh LittleThings]

Fred,
Where can we buy these?
Tahnks
Jazmin

[Greenwing]

Try

http://www.americanembsupply.com/product-list.php?Fusibles-pg1-cid65.html

[flebow]

Jerome- thanks

Jazmin
Jerome is correct American Eb supply

https://www.americanembsupply.com

888 518-6522

If you email me your address off list they will gladly send samples

[email protected]

Sincerely
Fred

[ April 09, 2011, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: levelbest ]

[Posh LittleThings]

Thank you Jerome and Fred,

Fred are you related to Allstitch.com?

[flebow]

I am definnitely not affiliated w All Stitch .

We sell & Make only "delta formed" wet laid non wovens
All Stitch stretches
If it stretches in any direction you lose registration
Try the 3 oz All Stitch agains our 3 oz "wet laid" non wovens and please let me know the results

Wett laid

http://lebowconsulting.com/stabilizer-glossary.htm

These products have no multi directional stretch which is necessary in order to approach the " tambourine skin " type tension so necessary for proper registration or definition
These wet laid products also contain neelde lubricants They are VERY soft and dense - one layerof the 3 ox is suggested for 50,000 stsiches of a moderately dense design

BTW We do have distributor in Tex
If you want we will happily send samples

Just pls contact me off list

Thanks
Fred