Looping (thread break)

[GCEMBROIDERY]

I am stitching out a polo shirt and am getting thread breaks. I watched it and the thread is looping below the arm where the thread goes through as it pushes the thread. It acts like a timing problem but I thought I would put it out here to see what I can do. The Acti-feed is on auto.

[Chris & Cindy]

Try restarting the machine and computer for starters.

[The Embroidery Authority - OLD]

Gary,
Is there any air or wind blowing on your thread spools atop the machine? I've seen where this kind of action can cause the thread to be fed incorrectly into the thread feed rollers.

Give us more information to work with.

Thanks,
Ed

[GCEMBROIDERY]

There is no air and it seems to get better when I go at faster speeds. I thought it may be the bobbin or the needle which I checked and it still did it. The thread that is bowing out is below the rollers and just below the feeder arm.

[GCEMBROIDERY]

I am only having this problem on the #13 needle. I changed needles but I still get constant thread breaks. It acts like the thread is not catching the bobbin. I switched to #3 needle and it stitched out the name just fine. I changed thread on #13 and it still does the same thing. It acts like it is out of time and the thread seems to pop outward under the feed arm. Not sure how to explain it, I hope you understand what I am saying here.

[Rod or Sharon]

Gary,

If this is only happening on the # 13 needle, it is not your timing....check the needle orientation carefully...make sure that it is either straight ahead or turned 5 to 10 degrees to the "right"....also, take off the red pinch roller and remove the inner threadfeed roller, wash them in med hot soapy water, relubricate and reinstall them. Becareful not to get any grease on the face of either roller or the thread will track off to the left side of the rollers and create a messy birdnest....

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[gcannon]

Make sure the thread feed roller hasn't lost one of it's brass bushings- not the red one, but the one under the black cover. I have had this happen & the same problem you describe developed.

[GCEMBROIDERY]

I take that back they are all doing it now. The thread is not keeping up with the arm it seems. When I look at the thread it seems to want to push outward creating a loop. Is that normal?
I wonder if it could be the bobbin case?

[gcannon]

What do you have the autofeed lower limit set at?

[GCEMBROIDERY]

I went back to default on the autofeed. I changed the bobbin case to see if that was the problem. I got through the embroidered name but it seems the thread still is bouncing outward. The good news is I had no thread breaks. I think sometimes the thread is hanging up on the bobbin case where it goes to the curly spring type thing.

[Rod or Sharon]

Gary,

The thread appearing to be "bouncing outwards" to some degree is normal. Material thickness settings are regulated by either Standard or Auto acti-feed settings. Threadfeed functions can also be adjusted through Column feed or Run/fill speed or both. Other functions such as bobbin tension, pull compensation and/or long stitches, all can have an affect on how much thread is being fed at a given time.

You as the programer must learn some of these basic functions and what they are for and how different adjustments react to different designs and on different materials, etc.....

As ED Orantes, aka, The Embroidery Authority, might say...My Mama didn't tell me embroidery was going to be easy!!!!

Rod Springer
Amaya Tech & Trainer

[gcannon]

The "pigtail" is the curly thing- & very important; it helps to set up the bobbin thread for tie-ins & outs. Are you absolutely sure that you thread the bobbin in the case correctly? I think I would set my thread feed settings to default & try to diagnose the symptoms of the problem(s) on scraps. And, don't forget to "rock" the thread feed sensor...check earlier posts here about that.

[GCEMBROIDERY]

I always try different things before I ask questions on here. Before the "Pig Tail" there is a hole that the thread comes out of. I was finding the thread passing out the hole and dropping below the hole before the "Pig Tail" thus causing the bobbin thread to not cut correctly. Then of course bad things happen. I changed bobbin cases and it seems to be doing ok now. I have had my XT since December and most of the time I can figure out what is wrong by now. However it is nice to be able to come on here and talk to the "Experts". Thanks to everyone for felping us new users. By the way my Mamma never did embroidery while she was on this earth, but yes embroidery is not easy. Thanks again

[gcannon]

Glad you got her up & running again.

[The Embroidery Authority - OLD]

ROD,!

WHAT DID YOU CALL MY MAMMA???!!!

ED

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Wait a minute!!!
Who on this list considers themselves an "Expert"???!!!??? (besides Roland)
Don't look at me. I continue to learn new things everyday.
And by the way, my online name, "The Embroidery Authority", is attributed to the sarcasm in my sense of humor.

Like my Mamma used to say, "if you can't laugh at yourself, get a mirror".

Ed