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    Backing again.

    We have been buying all our backing from Melco. I've been experementing with thin dress shirts in the wash and I've noticed after the dryer the backing is pretty wrinkled as well as the design puckering worse. Is all backing created equal? I'm wondering if the puckering problem on the shirts is due to the backing?

    Thanks,
    Mike
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    It could be a combination of density and backing on thin fabric. I always believe the thinner the fabric, the thicker the stabilizer has to be to compensate. You didn't mention what weight of stabilizer you're using, or how dense the design is. For a thin shirt I'd probably go with at least two layers of 2 oz cutaway. When I work with a new fabric type, I do a bunch of different stabilizer combos on it, mark them with a Sharpie or keep a chart for reference, and wash 'em. To quote Monk, "It's amazing."

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    • #3
      I've been messing with backing from two 2oz cutaway to two 3oz cutaway. I've also been tweaking the design density. It has a satin stitch border around a fill. It seems to look better with two fills at 5pts in opposite directions and the satin stitch is at 5pts density. The shirt is 4.5 oz Easy Care from SanMar. Still puckers....
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      • #4
        Kinda silly questions, BUT, did you pre-shrink shirt, and did you pull the fabric too tight?

        ANOTHER backing question -- I just got an e-mail from embroiderysystemscanada.com; they have a 4 ounce cotton tear away out. Has anyone tried this, and if you did, how did it do?

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        • #5
          I didn't pre-shrink and I've been paying very close attention to how I'm hooping because I thought that might have been the problem. I've tried taping the hoops, spray adhesive and tissue paper. I'm wondering if I am just spinning my wheels and this thin of a material is going to act this way.

          Mike
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          • #6
            I pre-shrink everything, and put my two layers in at opposing angles (even if they are non-directional). I guess you could try going the OTHER direction, and going lighter stabilizer. Stranger things have happened..!!

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            • #7
              When at the ISS Long Beach, I was introduced to the Floriani stabilizers. They are wonderful! They have a "no show mesh fusible sheer cutaway" that is made for this situation. I personally haven't tried it yet, but saw their samples and have talked with a number of people that say it works very well. Their website is www.floriani.com Hope this helps.
              Karen
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              Karen Howe<br />Embroidery Plus<br />720-887-5998

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              • #8
                Hey Judy,

                How do you pre-shrink everything? Do you wash and dry them? I'm going to try one 2oz cutaway. If thats the answer, it'll floor me. I use to use one 2oz on everything a year ago. I'm also going to order some no show mesh fusible sheer cutaway Karen suggested.

                Thanks you guys,
                Mike
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                • #9
                  We mainly deal with "delta formed wet laid" non wovens
                  They are VERY soft and dense and entirely non directional.

                  http://rnkdistributing.com/info.shtml#wetlaid

                  They were developed in different weighst for single layer application
                  The idea is to use one layer of the proper weight for your stitch count & stitch density and for the weight and stretch of your material.
                  I do not like to be pinned down to #'s as there are far too many variables

                  but here goes :

                  a 2 oz cutaway "should"hold approc x 8,000 stitches - 1 layer
                  a 2.5 oz 15-20,000
                  a 3 oz 30,000or abave

                  There is really not a need for any more
                  There is a 3.1 & a 3.5 oz "saturate" made by a company named Milyon in Mxico and distributed by Melco mart and a few other companies
                  I believe that a 3 oz wet laid non woven, because of its density will hold as many or more stitches -single layer
                  By the way - the shrinkage on these "wet laid" non wovens is approx 1-2% - far closer to 1%

                  The mesh shrinks 3-5 %
                  Some peo[le do steam and pre -shrink the mesh
                  But the use of the no show nylon mesh is a whole different story as is the fusible mesh
                  I would be glad to go over this on another thread

                  Please feel free to e-mail me off list for samples to perform your own tests


                  Sincerely
                  Fred
                  Fred Lebow - Non Wovens - 406 854-2322<br />[email protected] - lebowconsulting.com<br /> So many tunes - so little time<br />\"Stabilizing is the foundation for good embroidery. Lay a proper foundation\"

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                  • #10
                    Hi there. Yes, I RINSE and dry everything that has any cotton in it (or rayon, which is just another form of cotton). I used to think I did a lot of laundry...then I started embroidering! The next washer dryer replacement is going to be Dexter commercial grade ones. I have the largest household ones I can find, and I'm just wearing them out quickly.

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